Andrew J. Lederer

continuation of corona on an empty stomach, but i meant it (i fixed my typos)

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From: rino@edfringe.com
Date: Aug 8, 2007 12:34 PM
Subject: RE: fringe sunday - no email
To: "Andrew J. Lederer"

hi andrew.

thank you for clarifying. i was a bit confused by your first email, if not a little hurt. whatever you may feel about 'fringe' is one thing - but to speak to me, 'an artist who is working to make a living doing the best i can to create an event and support as many people as i can' is another thing all together. I AM NOT THE FRINGE. i am a part of it though and am willing to take on the responsibility of the program of fringe sunday. i just don't appreciate being treated like that.

i am sorry you had an issue 2 years ago. this is my second year programming fringe sunday so i can not comment on your experience back then.

i also understand that a group email is not ideal - which is why i started by apologising so if you have any ideas of how to respond to over 250 applicants in a short time then please let me know. seriously - i would appreciate any advice or feedback you may have.

i can't comment about the wi-fi and the club as it is not my department - i am not even in the same building. again i get that it may feel like you are not treated as an individual but how do you propose to deal with so many performers.

what the fringe is? who the fringe is? where the fringe is going? and all those questions and comments are all debateable and i agree they need to be debated. i am not the fringe but i work for the fringe and i know that all the people here want to help and want to do more and want to be supportive of all artists but it is very difficult sometimes with such a massive event. as an artist myself i see the value in both the fringe artists and the fringe society being there for each other. i don't feel as if there should be an us and them attitude when it comes to the fringe office and artists. i do not think that the staff here see ourselves as separate - i mean the staff here are not here because they are forced to be part of the fringe... they are here because they want to be here, they are excited to be here and they want to contribute to the massive and wonderful event that fringe is. i agree it is not perfect - what is perfect though? what and how would fringe be perfect? to whom would it be perfect for? how do we achieve that? all big questions. and all being asked here too.

again i am sorry if your experiences are not always positive - i am open to hearing feedback about fringe sunday and take you comments into account. as i said i am only in my second year programming and very much learning how this big awesome event we all call 'the fringe' works.

i also want to add that all my comments above are representative of me and not the fringe. this represents ME, my opinions as a part of the fringe but not the views of the fringe. i don't want to sound all hippy but we are all doing the best we can, we all work hard and long hours at what we do and we are open to feedback but there are ways of doing that. basically i don't appreciate being spoken to like that - i did not cause your past problems.

i am going to pass your issues on to our director so that he / we can look into them - we do take complaints seriously and do want to act on them.

thank you Andrew

rino del zoppo
fringe sunday programmer
edinburgh festival fringe
t: 0131 226 0035
f: 0131 226 0016
180 high street, edinburgh eh1 1qs
edinburgh festival fringe 2007 runs 5 - 27 august
www.edfringe.com

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From: Andrew J. Lederer
Date: Aug 8, 2007 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: fringe sunday - no email
To: rino@edfringe.com

thanks for taking the time to write this.

sometimes frustration with a bureaucracy can make you crazy.

good luck sunday.

signed,
this side of my personality

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From: rino@edfringe.com
Date: Aug 8, 2007 12:43 PM
Subject: RE: fringe sunday - no email
To: "Andrew J. Lederer"

hey man - i agree... the last thing we want to be is the big bad wolf - one of the multinational corporations of the world.. i get that is how it seems though.

i can see you understand that and i get that it is frustrating for you sometimes.

on the up side i have one bit of feedback already - wifi is up and running and works much easier than in the past. yay.

cheers.

rino del zoppo

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